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Re: Caldwell - family affinity
By:Tom Caldwell
Date: 05:12 3/18/02
In Response To: Re: Caldwell - family affinity (David Andrew Caldwell)

: I have always wondered, as have many others, which

: Here is my two cents: George Crawfurd's History of the
: Shire of Renfrew, 1782, mentions that the Caldwells of
: Renfrewshire/Ayrshire had marital relationships with
: other landed families (Wallace, Semple, Stewart,
: Montgomery, Mure, and Pollock). Reference is made to a
: land charter involving Robert Boyd and John Caldwell
: at Annandale in 1606. This family remained in
: residence until 1641, when the land was transferred
: into the Taggart family.

The Boyds were the Lords of Kilmarnock in Ayrshire and Annandale is a property close by the village of Crosshouse just to the west of Kilmarnock. I don't know the history of Annandale but I do know it came into the possession of the Orr family in later times. Annanhill on the other hand is closer in on the outskirts of Kilmarnock on the same road. It was long in the Caldwell family but eventually went to the Dunlop's who were related to the Caldwell's. It is now a golf course.

: In researching my kinsmen, I have a suspicion that I may
: be related to David Calwell, b. 1693, Lochwinnoch, and
: a long line of earlier Calwells, some of whom had
: migrated to Ulster Planations in the first half of the
: 17th century and some of whom later returned to
: Scotland. The Fall 1989 issue of Caldwell Family
: Newsletter refers to an Andrew Calwell, who leased
: land in Ulster Ireland from John Cunningham of
: Craifield, Parish of Beith, Ayrshire, who first
: acquired the land in 1610. At the time of this issue,
: the Newsletter had not as yet recognized that Andrew
: Caldwell, father of Rev. Dacid Caldwell, originally
: spelled his surname Calwell, a common Scottish variant
: of Caldwell up to the 17th century. Backissues are
: available from Marilyn Janda, Editor, .

I always thought that the spelling version "Calwell" was predominately if not exclusively Irish. There may have been a few "typos" in Scotland but most Caldwell's in Scotland have been very careful with the "d" whatever other variation might have been written.

As with all names one has to submit to various attempts at spelling it by others not familiar with it. Over my many years I have had: "Caudwell" (frequently) "Cornwall" (in Wales where the surname is not familiar but Cornwall the county is) "Cauldwell" (understandable) and "Calwell" (less frequently). I suppose if one doesn't see what is written down, or if you are not particular enough to have it corrected, or your own literacy is not high the name is effectively changed by a scribe who has just not been interested enough to get it right, is partly deaf, or is not a student of dialects.

It would be an interesting exercise to hear from others what they have been called over the years (please keep it polite). :)

: The Fall 1988 Caldwell Family Newsletter mentions
: additional Calwells for the County of Down, 1630, that
: included John, Thomas, Robert, and William. The
: Caldwell spelling was not used at that time. It has
: yet to be established any of these Calwells are lineal
: ancestors.

: Most of the Ulster Plantation Scots had migrated from
: Ayrshire. A map is shown in the Fall 1989 issue of
: Caldwell Family Newsletter showing the Scottish
: origins of Ulster Plantation settlers as of 1600-1641.
: Reference: Raymon Gillespsie, Colonial Ulster: The
: Settlement of East Ulster 1600-1641. Tom Caldwell, who
: is a regular contributor to this website, may find it
: helpful to compare this map with what information he
: has as to the Ayrshire towns in which he located
: references to Caldwells.

I have seen Marlyn Janda's name mentioned a few times but I have not seen any of her work. Can someone please guide me to a site or give me a reference. Perhaps Marilyn can be persuaded to join oue discussion group as it sounds like she has a great deal to contribute.

About 20 years ago I was browsing in the local reference library in down town rural Coffs Harbour at the ends of the earth and I just happened upon a book entitled "The Scottish Migration to Ulster in the Reign of James I" (VI of Scotland) by M Percival-Maxwell dept of History McGill University published by Routledge & Kegan Paul. This is a very substantial and erudite text and must be an invaluable resiuce for an serious researcher of the topic. Unfortunately I could only borrow it and I haven't looked for it since. I wish I had my own copy. I did copy a few pages from the appendix and the bibliography for reference. There is another book in the series which I have not seen entitled "Ulster Emigration to Colonial America 1718-1775) by RJ Dickson and yet another "Essays in Scotch-Irish History" edited by ERR Green.
If anyone has access to any or all of these books I am sure that we all would like to hear from them.
I know that the very early Scots settlement in Ireland started in the days of Queen Elisabeth I and was mainly in the Ards region opposite Scotland. The English apparently turned a blind eye to the occupation of this area of "their" territory by the foreign Scots.
The book lists all the undertakers, where they came from and where in Scotland they sought their tenants. The plantations had a very mixed success rate.

I read that here were a good number of Irish who had their Irish names Anglicised (by the English) I think the reference is a book by Woolfe on Irish Surnames, but it is a long time ago and I do not have a copy. From memory the names "translated" to Caldwell were McCaughwell (or similar because it sounded roughly the same) and Horisky (because it meant Cold-Water).

: The given names of Caldwell's in Antrim, Donegal, Down,
: Londondery, and Tyrone for the 1660's, some of whom
: are listed in Hearthmoney Rolls, and some taken from
: other sources, are set forth in the Fall 1990 Caldwell
: Family Newsletter. Given names included Alexander (1),
: Andrew (2), David (2), hugh (1), James (1), John (8),
: Mathew (1), Robert (8), Thomas (1), and Williams (9).

These given names are similar to the Scots.

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Messages In This Thread

Caldwell - family affinity
Tom Caldwell -- 16:58 3/17/02
Re: Caldwell - family affinity
David Andrew Caldwell -- 21:23 3/17/02
Re: Caldwell - family affinity
Tom Caldwell -- 05:12 3/18/02
Re: Marilyn A. Janda, Editor
david andrew caldwell -- 06:39 3/18/02
Thanks & more Kempisland
Tom Caldwell -- 08:48 3/18/02
Re: Marilyn A. Janda, Editor
John Caldwell -- 12:12 3/18/02
Re: Marilyn A. Janda, Editor
Tom Caldwell -- 03:08 3/19/02
Re: Correct e-mail mjanda
Douglas Caldwell -- 04:38 3/21/02
Re: Caldwell - Burnside Farm Dundonald
Ian Miller -- 19:20 3/21/02
Re: Caldwell - Burnside Farm Dundonald
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