CaldwellGenealogy.com Discussion ForumRe: Lesley Gordon's research
By:John
Date: 10:36 1/21/02 In Response To: Re: Lesley Gordon's research (Tom Caldwell)
: I agree that there were principal lines of Caldwell's
It's reasonable that the heiress was a decendant, and likely the heir of the Chancellor's line. : of Caldwell's from the Lochwinnoch area then became
Okay, but crests and arms weren't passed down to female members of a family. The armorial bearings and the right to bear them would have stopped with the heiress' father. Other Caldwells, such as Sir James, would have received, or been awarded their amorial bearings. : The head of theis family was involved in the
I've often wondered, as there are Caldwell settlers who came to America in the mid-1600s. I've often wondered if some of those may have been captured by Cromwell and shipped off to America. : There were "hundreds" of Caldwell families -
I've seen it both ways. Thanks for the correction. : He was the progenator of the Irish family of note. I
This comes from R.M. Sibbet published in the Belfast Times, 1865. : seems to be trying to link themselves to.
Actually, it appears that these Ulster-Scots would have come to Ireland prior to 1630, and appear to have come in the early Plantations. William of Straiton was born in Ayrshire, as was his son, John. Both died in Ireland. : They were sympathetic to William of Orange and took
This would have been a few years later. I agree that as Presbyterians, they were likely Orangemen, but they'd have been a few generations born in Ireland by that time. : That they became wealthy and important had more to do
Oh, I totally agree. I believe that they may have even been Border Reivers. : When they finally matriculated their own coat of arms
Again, not all of a family or surname are entitled to armorial bearings. I realize that in the context of today, and especially in America, many people believe that they are somehow entitled or may display some Coat of Arms. That comes mostly from heraldy companies who profit from selling them. Techincally speaking, there are no "family" coats of arms. In the time that we are discussing, it would have been "illegal" for anyone other than those awarded, or the rightful male heir, to ever display or claim armorial bearings, or a Coat of Arms.
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