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Re: The Caldwell's of Ballybogan Co Donegal
By:Virginia Caldwell
Date: 06:15 6/2/02
In Response To: The Caldwell's of Ballybogan Co Donegal (Plunkett Caldwell)

Nicely Done. I nominate it for inclusion of John's "best of" I would like to hear more.

You commented that it would appear that John Calwell arrived in Ireland in the 1620's. Please do not feel insulted because I ask for proof. I feel the proof is the most interesting aspect about this statement. Proof is not easy to find. Most of us have no idea where to look for proof so far back in time. Strong proof can render this aspect of the history undisputable, like a postive DNA match in a paternity suit.

What is the writing upon which you base your statement about John Calwell's arrival in the 1620's? Who has custody of that writing? Can anyone see it, or is the writing available only to a limited class of researchers? Can you post a copy of the writing on this site? Can you give us a quotation the portions of the writing that provide evidence in support of what you say? Is it difficult to read the lettering? Is the text in contemporary English or something with too many obsolete words? Is the writing on parchment? Have portions faded from legibility?

You mentioned that John Calwell was on the Hearth Money Rolls of 1661. Same questions. Additionally, would you please telll what information genmerally is contained in the Hearth Money Rolls. Is there an address? How can you know it is the same John Calwell? Are there no other John Calwell's listed?

You mention that the Parish of Cloneight had 105 households represented by 66 Scots, 18 Irish and 21 English. Again, I ask the same questions about your source. At what date or decade are we talking about? Am I right in inferring that John Calwell resided in this Parish? Of what church is this a Parish--Presbyterian? Where is or was the Parish located?

You say that you have established John Calwell had three sons, William,John and James. What is the writing upon which you base your statement aboutJohn Calwell's sons? Who has custody of that writing? Can anyone see it, or is the wrting available only to a limited class of researchers? Can you post a copy of the writing on this site? Can you give us a quotation the portions of the writing that provide evidence in support of what you say?

You say that John married Mary Holmes. Again, what is your proof or reference? Is there anything of interest you can provide us about Mary Holmes and her genealogy?

You wrote that it is not surprising that confusion grew in this tree as Dr James' father was a merchant in Dublin and Dr James and Dr John had the same mother who had married brothers Andrew and James Caldwell. The brothers Andrew and James' sister Martha Caldwell married Charles Caldwell of Moneymore Co, Londonderry, who died in Newtown, Cunningham Co, Donegal(Farmer). Your statement fell off the cliff of confusion into a sea of chaos. Would you please clarify what you are trying to say.

You stated: "I hope this will encourage the descendants of John Calwell of Ballebogan to search for him in the church records of the Bishop of Raphoe as he mustered for him and received his lands of him." Would you please provide us a more particular description of these church records, sufficient that a custodian could recognize what records to produce or show us, or for us to use as a specific reference. Where is the Bisph of Raphoe located? Is Raphoe a diocese? Is this an Anglican Bishop? Presbyterians had no Bishops.

Plunkett, I think we would all be interested in how you researched these issues. What were the deadends? The obstacles you overcame? The time you invested? What was the most enjoyable aspect of your quest? The most difficult? Did you look at grave or tomb markers? Are their grass stains on your elbows? Like the explorers who died within a months of exploring King Tut's casket, have you placed yourself in harm's way by coming into contact with ancient references from an era when people died of pestilence? What makes this research worth your time?

I would like to know about your own genealogy?

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The Caldwell's of Ballybogan Co Donegal
Plunkett Caldwell -- 14:17 5/30/02
Re: The Caldwell's of Ballybogan Co Donegal
Virginia Caldwell -- 06:15 6/2/02
Re: The Caldwell's of Ballybogan Co Donegal
Dean Caldwell Jackson -- 07:43 6/2/02
Re: The Caldwell's of Ballybogan Co Donegal
Virginia Caldwell -- 19:06 6/4/02
Re: Pynnar's Survey 1618
Virginia Caldwell -- 20:44 6/4/02
Re: The Caldwell's of Ballybogan Co Donegal
Plunkett Caldwell -- 11:30 6/4/02
 

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