: Nicely Done. I nominate it for inclusion of John's
: "best of" I would like to hear more.

: You commented that it would appear that John Calwell
: arrived in Ireland in the 1620's. Please do not feel
: insulted because I ask for proof. I feel the proof is
: the most interesting aspect about this statement.
: Proof is not easy to find. Most of us have no idea
: where to look for proof so far back in time. Strong
: proof can render this aspect of the history
: undisputable, like a postive DNA match in a paternity
: suit.

: What is the writing upon which you base your statement
: about John Calwell's arrival in the 1620's? Who has
: custody of that writing? Can anyone see it, or is the
: writing available only to a limited class of
: researchers? Can you post a copy of the writing on
: this site? Can you give us a quotation the portions of
: the writing that provide evidence in support of what
: you say? Is it difficult to read the lettering? Is the
: text in contemporary English or something with too
: many obsolete words? Is the writing on parchment? Have
: portions faded from legibility?

: You mentioned that John Calwell was on the Hearth Money
: Rolls of 1661. Same questions. Additionally, would you
: please telll what information genmerally is contained
: in the Hearth Money Rolls. Is there an address? How
: can you know it is the same John Calwell? Are there no
: other John Calwell's listed?

: You mention that the Parish of Cloneight had 105
: households represented by 66 Scots, 18 Irish and 21
: English. Again, I ask the same questions about your
: source. At what date or decade are we talking about?
: Am I right in inferring that John Calwell resided in
: this Parish? Of what church is this a
: Parish--Presbyterian? Where is or was the Parish
: located?

: You say that you have established John Calwell had three
: sons, William,John and James. What is the writing upon
: which you base your statement aboutJohn Calwell's
: sons? Who has custody of that writing? Can anyone see
: it, or is the wrting available only to a limited class
: of researchers? Can you post a copy of the writing on
: this site? Can you give us a quotation the portions of
: the writing that provide evidence in support of what
: you say?

: You say that John married Mary Holmes. Again, what is
: your proof or reference? Is there anything of interest
: you can provide us about Mary Holmes and her
: genealogy?

: You wrote that it is not surprising that confusion grew
: in this tree as Dr James' father was a merchant in
: Dublin and Dr James and Dr John had the same mother
: who had married brothers Andrew and James Caldwell.
: The brothers Andrew and James' sister Martha Caldwell
: married Charles Caldwell of Moneymore Co, Londonderry,
: who died in Newtown, Cunningham Co, Donegal(Farmer).
: Your statement fell off the cliff of confusion into a
: sea of chaos. Would you please clarify what you are
: trying to say.

: You stated: "I hope this will encourage the
: descendants of John Calwell of Ballebogan to search
: for him in the church records of the Bishop of Raphoe
: as he mustered for him and received his lands of
: him." Would you please provide us a more
: particular description of these church records,
: sufficient that a custodian could recognize what
: records to produce or show us, or for us to use as a
: specific reference. Where is the Bisph of Raphoe
: located? Is Raphoe a diocese? Is this an Anglican
: Bishop? Presbyterians had no Bishops.

: Plunkett, I think we would all be interested in how you
: researched these issues. What were the deadends? The
: obstacles you overcame? The time you invested? What
: was the most enjoyable aspect of your quest? The most
: difficult? Did you look at grave or tomb markers? Are
: their grass stains on your elbows? Like the explorers
: who died within a months of exploring King Tut's
: casket, have you placed yourself in harm's way by
: coming into contact with ancient references from an
: era when people died of pestilence? What makes this
: research worth your time?

: I would like to know about your own genealogy?

Hi Virgina,

My reasons behind my analysis of the Caldwells of Ballybogan is based on historical fact and these sources.

They Are;

Pynnars Survey of Ireland
He spent 119 days in Ulster compiling his report as oppposed to Bodleys survey of 79 days in 1613.As a result of the extra time,he provided far more detail.He also critically examined the information supplied to him by the Undertakers and tenants actually sought him out to appeal against the treatment they were receiving at the hands of the Undertakers In spite of the quality of the Pynnar's report it has to be treated with caution when as a source of measurement of Scottish migration.Totals frequently excluded the tenants of leaseholders and freeholders.In the six counties he surveyed he noted that the area might be able to raise 2000 British men.However it can be shown that the male total he gave for Portlough,a Scottish precinct in Donegal fell considerably short of the true number.Two proportions which in 1622 could raise 134 British men were simply described as well inhabited and not included in the survey for the county.The figures should be accepted as minima.However he did note a tendency for Englishmen to acquire land in Scottish precincts.Nevertheless the majority of tenants on Scottish proportions were Scots.

The Muster Roll of 1630-31
The muster roll was commissioned to establish the availability of able bodied men in Ulster between the ages of 16 to 60.There was a tendency on some estates for the undertaker to move men around his lands and duplicate his numbers and in some cases not to muster at all.However in the case of the Caldwell's I doubt this applies, The following is a list of "CALDWELLS"AS THEY APPEARED ON THE MUSTER ROLL OF 1630 - 31.There were no Caldwells on the Armagh Roll

Name County Undertaker
John Caldwell Fer,Ty&Cavan Town of Enniskillen

Robert Calwell Fer,TY&Cn Lord Balfour(Fermanagh)
John Calwell " Barony of Strabane
Thomas Calwell " " "
John Calwell(Merchant) " " "
RobertCalwell " " " (Abercorn Estate)
Patrick Calweill " Town of Strabane
Thomas Calwell Londonderry City and Liberties
Alexander Cawell " The Mercers Churchland
Robert Cawell " " "
Hugh Calwall " Lady McClelland "
William Calwell Donegal Sir John Cunningham Raphoe
John Calwell " JamesCunningham "
*John Calwell " Bishop of Raphoe Churchlands
*Robert Calwell " Dean " "
Andrew Cadwell " Lord Chichester Enishone
Mathew Cadwell " " " "
Alexander Cadwell " " " "

*This is the John Calwell noted on the Muster of 1631(Historical fact)
On the HMR's of 1665 we have a John Calwell in the Barony of Raphoe on the Churchland of the Bishop of Raphoe in the Parish of Cloneigh.Ballybogan is a townland in this parish.There is only one John in this Parish therefore it would not be unreasonable to assume that this is the same Calwell as the lease of Ballybogan is in existence from then until its sale in the 1800's.

The Hearth Money Roll was the list of households liable for tax based on the number of hearths in each household.If you had a hearth you paid tax for it.
This family tree is downloaded to ancestry.com and includes all notes and documentation ie wills,leases etc I researched to come to my conclusions

The Established Church,under the Plantation scheme received 10,000 acres in Donegal.In 1632 Bishop Knok claimed to have planted over 300 families of the "British Protestant settlers,the majority of whom certainly came from Scotland(Cal.State.Papers.Ireland.1623-32pp660/661Pynars Survey of Ireland)About 90-100 of these lived at Rathmullen and have been included in the Parish of Kilmacrenan.According to the 1630 Muster another 160 or so were to be found on 3000 acres of Churchland in the Barony of Raphoe,John Calwell being one of these.All lands at this time was granted to the Established Church and no other.
Hope this clarifies some of your queries if you access tree I believe you should be able to see the other documented evidence.The question of John Caldwell marries Holmes is based on data summitted by researchers elsewhere who made quantum leaps as to origins in Ireland.All I am attempting to do is clarify findings on this tree from an Irish perspective were I though the greatest difficulty to accuracy lay.However it would appear there are some differences stateside as to accuracy of that data. Where this tree goes after emigration, I cannot help with.
Regards Plunkett Caldwell
PS I hope to download all my findings on some 80 Irish trees to John's site soon when I discover how to do it.Regarding time spent on family reseach,over 30 years.

Because of the problems with the lack of Irish records I trawl all data on Caldwells I come across and then creat individual trees linking them where possible with the aid of wills,leaseholds,chancery case law,freeholds,land sales and acquisitions,parliamentary papers and estate records.
Hope this helps.