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Re: Caldwell Family Verbal History
By:John Caldwell
Date: 14:27 6/12/02
In Response To: Re: Caldwell Family Verbal History (Anonymous)

Okay, first of all Caldwells were NOT French Huguenots. I suppose that I could go into it in depth here, but I already have if anyone cares to read about it under the "Myths" section.

Huguenots in the USA in the late 1800s and early 1900s claimed many many many different families as Huguenots - even in the face of contrary evidence. Almost like recruiting for their society????

Any Caldwell who claims lineage to the "Cub Creek John" bunch are in NO WAY descendants from French Huguenots!!!!

Did anyone every bother to conclude that maybe one of the reasons that this society doesn't help with genealogical ancestry is because if the truth came out they'd lose better than half of the members that they bullshitted dues from?

Ya know, I really must say that I am very disappointed in many USA Caldwell researchers. For some, research is more work than trying to defend bullshit stories. Let's just think about this for a minute - Plunkett, living in Ireland, does fantastic research complete with source documentation.

Now, instead of accepting the facts that Plunkett puts forth, some take obscure theories and present them with indignance as though those theories might alter the facts of printed records. If it hasn't happened on this forum (yet), I've seen it played out on other forums with other players.

From my own research (and printed on this site - if it's not too much trouble to look):

"What I do find very interesting is that Dr. Orra E. Monnette acted as chairman of a meeting of Huguenot descendants which was held in California on Sunday, March 3, 1935, stating that the purpose of the Society was to be an organization of Huguenot descendants to enable them to become better acquainted and to cultivate a happy Christian fellowship with each other, as well as to extend the great principles of political and religious liberty for which the Huguenots had always stood.

Something that strikes me as interesting is the overwelming number of Orra Monnette genealogies with Huguenot ancestory. Actually, just about every genealogy conducted by Monnette contains Huguenots. Was Monnette primarily focused on finding Huguenots, or creating them?

The story of French Huguenots in the line of Cub Creek John Caldwell is a stretch, to say the least."

And there is more data regarding French Huguenots migration to Ireland during the Plantations - not at the beginning of the Plantations, as were Caldwells, but after the Revocation of the Edict of Nantes.

There is this little thing called time and space that just doesn't seem to be very relevant in the Narcistic societies of instant gratification that we seem to be living in today.

Okay, so I'm a little moody since I'm attempting to quit smoking.... ;)

8)

And what's up with the Anon moniker?

: Huguenot Society of South Carolina
: 138 Logan Street
: Charleston, SC 29401-1941
: Phone: 1-843-723-3235
: Fax: 1-843-853-8476

: "The Society maintains a library offering resources
: for historical research and tracing of Huguenot
: ancestry. A qualified librarian/archivist, genealogist
: and registrar are available to offer assistance.
: Members of the Society as well as the public are
: invited to use the library facility during business
: hours. A minimal fee is charged for use of the library
: by non-members." http://www.huguenotsociety.org/

: There are hundred and hundreds of webpages about Huguenot
: (or Hugenot) geneology, including
: Huguenot>Irish>American geneology.

: Were your ancestors colonial South Carolinians of
: Huguenot descent? Use interlibrray loan and read: The
: Huguenots of Colonial South Carolina, by Arthur Henry
: Hirsch.

: A Feast of Huguenot Histories
: Huguenot Settlers in North America and Europe,
: 1600s-1900s
: (CD 600)
:
: http://www.genealogy.com/57_marthe.html?Welcome=1023913176

: On August 25, 1572, St Bartholomew's Day, when thousands
: of Huguenots were suddenly massacred by government
: forces in Paris and elsewhere in France. The Edict of
: Nantes in 1598 gave almost complete religious freedom.

: It was during this period that three brothers are said to
: have fled the Rhone Valley --where the Huguenots had
: been most concentrated -- and fled to Scotland,
: assuming the caldwell surname.

: The Huguenot Library, at University College, Gower
: Street, London WC1, contains geneological docuyments.

: An Irish Section of the Society was established in 1987
: and it has over 100 members at the moment. Application
: forms for those wishing to join the Irish Section are
: available from the Honorary Secretary Annette Camier,
: Sunhaven, Celbridge, County Kildare. The initial
: membership charge is £26, and thereafter there is an
: annual fee of £16. Membership is not confined to
: people with Huguenot ancestors, anyone with an
: interest in Huguenot history is welcome to join.

: All members of the Huguenot Society of Great Britain and
: Ireland receive a copy of the Society's annual
: publication The Huguenot Proceedings. This booklet is
: both scholarly and readable, and is also a very useful
: work of reference. All members also receive a
: quarterly newsletter from London. Members of the Irish
: Section receive, in addition, at least two occasional
: newsletters.

: No official help is given by the Society to its members
: in the area of researching ancestors. However, at the
: various meetings, help comes in the form of passing on
: advice and sharing of research findings. In September
: 1994, the Irish Section formally began the process of
: building up a collection of manuscripts, printed
: material, illustrations and artefacts. It is hoped
: that this will eventually become a vital source for
: those interested in the history and development of the
: French Protestant movement.

: Most Huguenot families who settled in Ireland conformed,
: in due course, to the Church of Ireland, and so there
: are strong historical links between the two religious
: communities.

: A good list can be found at

: http://www . cyndislist. com/huguenot. htm#General

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Messages In This Thread

Caldwell Family Verbal History
Annelle Caldwell Taylor -- 16:00 5/20/02
Re: Is the Huguenot link mythical?
David Caldwell -- 23:03 5/20/02
Re: Is the Huguenot link mythical?
DA Caldwell -- 10:48 5/25/02
Re: Caldwell Family Verbal History
Anonymous -- 13:38 6/12/02
Re: Caldwell Family Verbal History
John Caldwell -- 14:27 6/12/02
Re: Caldwell Family Verbal History
Tom Caldwell -- 04:51 6/13/02
Re: Caldwell Family Verbal History
Tom Caldwell -- 04:41 6/13/02
 

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